Interview @


The key to the economy recovery is the monetary policy
Interview with Kozo Yamamoto,
a Member of the House of Representatives (LDP)


30, March 2000

 Kozo Yamamoto's PhotoProfile
Born in 1948. House of Representative Member Kozo Yamamoto is a graduate of the Economics Department at University of Tokyo, Subsequently, he entered the Ministry of Finance ; Later, acquiring MBA from the Graduate School of Cornell University in 1973. He has served as a visiting scholar at Harvard University (1981), the Secretary for the Minister of Finance (1987), and Lecturer at@Kyushu International University (1991). He was elected for the first time as a Member of the House of Representatives in 1993, and serves as a member of the budgetary committee, and a member of the special committee for taxation system reform. He was elected to his second term as a Member of the House of Representatives in 1996.

Interviewer:
You've been a major supporter of the Specific Arbitration Law, which has been in effect since February 17th of this year.Today,I'd like you to share your feelings on it.

Rep.Yamamoto :
I'm pleased that we finally have the means to proceed with the balance sheet adjustment, which is the most serious problem Japan has been facing. According to the banks, they have invested the reserves in order to compensate for the non-performing loans. However,I still don't believe that this resolves the issues. It solves the problems only on the balance sheet; but does not solve the problems of the economy on a whole. Because the direct amortization has not proceeded, the economy has not yet been affected.

Despite how much money the Japanese government has invested,it hasn't aided in the recovery of the economy because the transactions for the small-medium size businesses and individuals have not proceeded. This Specific Arbitration Law and Bankruptcy Law,however,make resolution to this problem a possibility. The Bankruptcy Law (civil reproduction method), which will be effective April 1st, was enacted based on the chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Law. Presently, we should be able to proceed with the balance sheet adjustment while taking full advantage of these new laws which have been enacted.

Interviewer:
In your interview of last year, you identified a problem in the monetary policy conducted by the Bank of Japan. What is your opinion on it?

Rep.Yamamoto:
The balance sheet adjustment is the most serious problem that our economy is facing. Currently, we are ready to cut through the middle of it. In the interim, the measure we need to implement in order to improve the blood circulation is The Monetary Policy. The Bank of Japan needs to restructure their policy. There isn't enough money in circulation. They talk of the zero interest rate, but it really isn't accurate. The real interest rate is still relatively high. Because the Bank of Japan dropped the monetary base around the fall of 1996, our economy has been declining since 1997.

The public blames the former Japanese Prime minister,Hashimoto, for the increased tax rate and for the cut in national finance. This is incorrect. It is a secondary event triggered by the Bank of Japan dropping the monetary base.

The only actions which the Japanese government has proceeded with are the finance mobilization and the tight-money policy. That's why they've failed.I understand that the Director-General of the Tax Bureau stated the following:" The budget compilation will be impossible to do after 3 years." It's not possible to expend funds on the mobilization of finance anymore.

Interviewer:

In 3 years? (...Laughing...) Doesn't it seem a little optimistic? They have been slacking the money market aggressively. However,there was an opportunity last October related to the event of the higher Japanese exchange rate. At that time, the Bank of Japan repeatedly made very obscure comments, and did not initiate any action whatsoever.

Rep.Yamamoto:

Exactly.They failed to take any action. However, they increased the monetary base in December and January to handle Y2K problems. That increase influenced the activities of the stock market and, in response, the Japanese exchange rate came down. The Y2K issue revealed the entire mechanism of the slacking of the money market. (....Laughing.....)

In fact, they increased the monetary base by over 10% that time. After that, however, the Bank of Japan began tightening the money market and the Japanese exchange rates tended to increase again. It is a shame that there are only a few congressmen and officers of the Ministry of Finance of Japan who truly understand how the Bank of Japan operates.

Interviewer:
The Bank of Japan's opinion on the aggressive slacking of the money market is vague. It was not clearly stated in the minutes of monetary policy meeting of the Bank of Japan Policy Board. Is there any discussion about it in the Diet?

Rep.Yamamoto:
Rep.Yoshimi Watanabe and I often question it in the Diet, however the opposition parties don't understand this type of theory, and there is a limit to questioning the ruling party as well.

The Bank of Japan shouldn't operate the money market by their dogmatic theory. I suggest that they do inflation targeting instead (I don't like the word, "inflation", I would prefer the "target policy in the stability of commodity prices"). This means that they should operate the monetary policy setting, increase the target by stabilizing the consumer prices by 1-3 % in 2 years. Otherwise, their dogmatic policy will distort the Japanese economy.

Interviewer:
You mentioned the "dogmatic policy of the Bank of Japan", when do you feel it started?

Rep.Yamamoto:
A Long time ago. They lack a financial theory. When I graduated from the University, there was the Komiya/Yoshino controversy mainly involving the professor of Tokyo University, Ryutatro Komiya. Additional controversies followed the Komiya/Yoshino issue, and were discussed repeatedly in regards to the Bank of Japan. The Bank of Japan lacks a policy target. They can't grasp the issues in the framework an economist normally uses such as defining the policy target and the policy means.

In other countries, a government presents a policy target to their central bank when the bank gains independence on the monetary policy. If the Bank of Japan obtains independence on the monetary policy, the government or the Diet should present the target and allow the Bank of Japan to operate it based on the target. Otherwise, it doesn't balance the consistency in the independence.

Interviewer:
How would you describe the discussion at the Monetary Policy Meetings of the Bank of Japan Policy Board ?

Rep.Yamamoto:
I can't comprehend it because they don't have a target. I don't understand what they mean by wiping off the concern over deflation. Who would determine the concern of deflation? Does the The Governor of the Bank of Japan or a member of the Policy Board feel concerned with deflation suddenly? It doesn't make any sense to evaluate it unless they present it in a way that everyone can understand.

Interviewer:
The Governor of the Bank of Japan will be asked to explain his accountability in the Diet. Isn't it clearly stated in the revised Bank of Japan Law?

Rep.Yamamoto:
"The Bank of Japan's "Review of Monetary and Economic Developments " is published every six months. The Governor of the Bank of Japan is supposed to explain the contents of the publication. However, he only reads it and attempts to avoid answering questions asked by the Congressmen. He offers an excuse, saying that the Bank of Japan's secretariat will answer the questions individually, and that they will answer the questions only on that particular day. The Congressmen in the opposition parties are unfamiliar with financial theory. It's easy to see how this procedure fails to lead to any essential discussion on the subject.

Interviewer:
You mean a questioner is also in a weaker position in the Diet?

Rep.Yamamoto:
That's right. The Bank of Japan is trying to avoid being taken advantage of.

Interviewer:
Let me ask the last question: How do you think the Japanese economy will fare in the future?

Rep.Yamamoto:
Presently we are in the worst possible position. As a result, I can speculate that the only direction we can go is towards gradual recovery. However, this is all dependent upon the Bank of Japan's monetary policy. Otherwise,I predict it will recover a little, and then decline again.

Interviewer:
Thank you for your time with us today.


interviewer: Mitsuyoshi Tsukahara
(Recorded on March 14th, 2000)




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