Interview  

13, April 1999


2. Inconsistencies Existent in BOJ Financial Policy

Interviewer:
 I 'd like to ask you about the issues which have been brought up during the Diet sesscions. Namely, the financial policy and in particular, the monetary policy held by the Bank of Japan. You have pointed out at the beginning of Rep. Yamamoto's written statement on policy that the monetary policy of the BOJ should be carried out in line with economic policy of the government. You also pointed out that the monetary policy held by the Bank of Japan is problematic.
 I'd like to hear your opinion on this issue in detail.

Rep. Yamamoto:
 In any economics textbook, monetary policy is defined as the management of the monetary base by the control of the central bank and thereby controlling money-supply. This is an orthodox explanation of monetary policy. However, the Bank of Japan is considering administering a monetary policy that is far from what is defined in the textbooks. That is, they always look at the nominal short-term interest rate called the call rate and they do not want to change the call rate not so much.
 A low call rate is called an expansionary policy. A high call rate is called a tight policy. The problem with this monetary policy is that it is the nominal interest rate. Therefore, their discussions are far from the real interest rate. If the price level (to put it more accurately, expected price increase rate) is changed, the real interest rate could be very high even if the nominal interest rate is low.
 The substantial capital cost is high in a situation where the risk premium is very high since the capital cost that determines actual behavior of the corporations is defined as real interest rate plus risk premium.
 In spite of this fact, the Bank of Japan is taking the position of that the policy is expansive since the nominal interest rate is low. This has been making the market recession more serious. Since it is very difficult to control the rate of price increase or real interest rate, it would be better to think about quantity or how much money in the real economy. Then, difficult problems of price can be changed into something simpler.
 In short, what I want to say is that the Bank of Japan should examine the orthodox policy under taken by the central banks of Europe and the US, and the Bank of Japan has not been doing this.

Interviewer:
Are there any other reasons for the lag in the timing of the lowering of interest rate?

Rep. Yamamoto:
 What the Bank of Japan is planning as a monetary policy is an equation composed of the excess payment of financial capital subtracted from the additional issuance of Bank of Japan notes. They take their cue from the demand of capital through this equation. If this turns out to be positive, they judge that it is a money tightening factor and increase the credit of the Bank of Japan.
 And if it is negative, they consider that it is a money expansionary factor and decrease the credit of the Bank of Japan. When explaining the policy of the Bank of Japan, they always explain it in this way. This is not a theory. They are thinking in terms of an identical equation. In addition to this, they do not have the concept of cost. There is no argument of what is the policy's goal and what is the policy's means. Let me explain to you what would happen if we use this equation.
 For example, during Japan's bubble economy, real estate companies bought one piece of land after by cash another as a tax-evasion measure. During that time, the number of BOJ notes increased considerably. However, the BOJ judged that the finances were restricted since the amount of money diminished in the financial sector world, and increased the BOJ credit.
 That is, the number of the Bank of Japan notes increased during the bubble economy and in spite of the fact that there was excess money, they took measures to increase the credit of the Bank of Japan to add to expand the bubble further.
 On the contrary, when there is an excess payment in finance, since the equation yields negative results and therefore they consider this as a money loosening factor and take restraining measures.
 By doing this, the recession becomes more serious. They have been making such mistakes very frequently. Since they are using the equation as a basis for their decision to try to freeze the short-term nominal interest rate, without hesitation they take measures that can cause abnormal fluctuations abruptly from positive to negative. The monetary base has been overwhelmingly negative since last December till January of this year.
 So what I want to tell you is that the Bank of Japan does not have a monetary theory. Although it is the high time for them to understand the relationship between the monetary base and the money supply and discuss what will happen to the interest rate level depending on which policy they implement and what will happen to the level of income, presently, they don't have a working model.


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